I mountain bike regularly, and I actively counter-steer all the time. It's super obvious if you know what to look for. I personally most feel it when doing fast, flat, sweeping turns.
I lean the same direction as the turn, and the bike will feel like it wants to fall further in, making the turn sharper and sharper. Pushing on the side of the handlebar on the direction I'm turning counters this desire of the bike to fall into the turn.
That's counter-steering. It's a pretty unconscious action, and to most feels like what comes natural when one leans a bike to turn. I am not arguing that the effect does not exist, only that it isn't interesting and is not worthy of a special term to describe it.
FWIW I ride motorcycles on a regular basis I oppose the discussion on countersteering in the regular motorcycle training curriculum because it suggests that there is more than one type of turn for no real reason. It would be better just to say that you turn on a motorcycle by changing the angle of the motorcycle from vertical.
Then there is only one thing to learn. You actually described counter-steering, even though you might disagree. That is part of counter-steering. Turn the handlebars right to begin turning the bike left -- that can and does include slowing down an increasing right turn until it's at a constant turning radius.
That's why you're always counter-steering on a two-wheeled vehicle; because turning the handlebars right of where they currently are always causes you to turn more right of where you'd have gone if you didn't move the handlebars. Since you ride motorcycles, then you already know anyone who's facing a quick turn definitely does not want to wait to fall.
To turn quickly, you must counter-steer. I am curious why you think it's not worth a special term, when it's unintuitively opposite from the way car steering works, and it's important to know in order to stay safe?
I disagree with that. Before someone learns to turn a cycle, motorized or not, they have to learn to not fall over. So we tell them that they have to turn towards the direction they are falling. Once they master not falling then in practice there is nothing more to teach. They can easily generalize to adjusting the bike to any lean angle because the required motion of the handlebars is exactly the same. If you feel comfortable with it, spending a day at a racetrack with a trained instructor is very helpful, Cycle World reports.
Several books that further explain countersteering and other handling techniques, Cycle World reports. And fitting a steering damper, aka a steering stabilizer, also makes a bike more stable and resistant to mid-corner bumps, RevZilla and Motorcyclist report. Follow more updates from MotorBiscuit on our Facebook page. How do you countersteer on a motorcycle? As one posted earlier, he did not perceive countersteer till he went into a corner too hot and saved the day by loading up the inside bar and the bike went thru the bend and all was OK.
Right, Paul. Also, bikes with narrower tires will also turn is easier, requiring little perceived countersteering pressure. It seems to me if I keep on countersteering, the bike just leans over more and the front wheel feels like its pushing out from under me without tracking the corner. However, if I lean-in, relax and let the front wheel turn INTO the corner, then it goes round just fine!
Once leant over, actively countersteering seems to tighten the line, whilst actively turning into the turn stands the bike up.
The only way you can weave from side to side within a lane is by countersteering, start from the left hand wheel track, ease the right hand bar forward, the bike leans right and weaves to the right. Push on the left bar, the bike leans left and weaves left. Moto GP riders only lean off the inside of the bike to move the centre of gravity to the inside and make the bike think it is leaned over further and turn tighter.
As a newer rider, I mainly practised counter-steering at first. Then I added body-steering. The two definitely work best together. I just shift my upper body in the direction of the turn and brace with the opposite knee. Feels very connected. One thing I feel is missing from most discussions on counter-steering is what happens immediately AFTER the lean is initiated.
What is actually happening to make the bike turn? All that did was increase lean angle! Actively turning into the turn would, of course, just stand the bike up. Shifts in body weight only cause counter-steering to happen. I could be wrong about everything I said. You have a good handle on this topic for a newbie. You must relax your arms to let this natural balancing effect occur otherwise it will feel as if the motorcycle is not able to maintain the cornering path.
Let those natural forces of physics work in your favor by pushing the handlebar into the turn. Not ready to practice on your own? It could be that you are a new rider who just doesn't feel secure on their motorcycle, or maybe you've been riding for some time and have not had the chance to take formal riding classes. Whatever the case, you are always welcome at the Academy and with locations across the U. Relax your body and your mind. Put these principles into practice.
Give a gentle push and lean into the turn naturally. You may be pleasantly surprised at how easy it becomes to make your bike do your bidding. Of course, a larger discussion of proper turning technique is merited to fully and safely enjoy those winding roads. But understanding the principles of countersteering will help you turn the corner — pun intended! We're sorry. The info provided does not match our records. Please verify and try again. You also can retrieve a quote by quote number or start a new quote.
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