However, it was further developed during Japanese rule when they forbid native Okinawans to own weapons. A Ninja is basically a Japanese word for a spy. Ninjutsu is the training of a ninja; although, there isn't really a single style of martial arts that ninjas study. Nobody studies authentic ninjutsu anymore. Anyone who claims to is a fraud. Any modern "ninjutsu" systems are reconstructed based on someone's "best guesses" of what ninjutsu actually was.
I am not a fan of most ninjutsu schools in North America. Judo is the first "modern" martial art. It was founded in by a Japanese scholar named Kano. In Japan there were many types of martial arts called "jujutsu. Kano took the most effective techniques from each style and changed more techniques to be more effective.
Kano came up with ways to practice in realistic situations one way is called randori - aka free sparring. He also invented the standard uniform called a gi - the usually white uniform that looks like a bath robe , and he invented the usage of different colored belts to denote how skilled one was in the martial art.
Therefore, Kano was the first to rank his students with black belts and others. Judo is famous for its very effective takedowns and throws. It was adopted as the official style of the Tokyo Police Force and greatly influenced virtually every other martial art in the world.
Judo has also been adapted as an Olympic Sport too. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu my style is based on judo combined with several other martial arts in Brazil. It specializes in ground fighting, joint attacks, and chokes.
BJJ fighters became famous through great performances in mixed-martial arts fights. Aikido not aikaido is a "soft" martial art founded in the early 20th century. Unlike judo or BJJ, aikido's philosphy is against competition.
They put most emphansis on spiritural development. This is what I mean by "soft. Aikido is generally known for good wrist-breaking techniques. I use some aikido techniques and philosophies in my martial arts, but I am not a big fan of aikido in general. I don't feel it is as effective as BJJ or judo.
Kung fu is literally Chinese for "very skilled. As commonly used in North America, Kung fu is slang for Chinese martial arts. The most common of which are "wing chun" and "shaolin" martial arts. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Difference between ninjutsu and Jujitsu-related arts. Charbel Hanna Yellow Belt. Joined Jul 10, Messages 34 Reaction score 7. I hope you are well. Some people might have met me in another forum, where I asked a question about aikibudo, aiki jujitsu, and ninjutsu. Here, I will ask a question more specific to ninjutsu.
Beforehand, I want to say that I have read the pinned description and FAQ about ninjutsu, but there were so many Japanese terms that I just frankly got lost in it, so I thank you in advance for your patience.
Here goes. Practically speaking, what is the difference between ninjutsu styles and jujitsu and related styles? I suspect there will be many minor differences, as there are between particular schools within a same style, and sometimes even from a dojo to another, but I mean Let's say a jujitsu practitioner and a ninjutsu practitioner meet and fight informally in a dojo, or formally in the street , what will be characteristic of each person's techniques or movements?
Feel free to also compare with other martial arts too. I'm just really curious about what ninjutsu is in practice! Thank you! Joined Mar 31, Messages Reaction score It's tricky to compare and contrast unless you specify what "jujutsu" and "ninjutsu" you are talking about.
A modern system created based on someone's fantasy of what ninjas might be like based on popular entertainment. The Takamatsuden systems i. This is what you are most likely to encounter in a "ninjutsu" dojo today. Regarding the 9 arts taught in the X-kans: 3 are supposedly forms of ninjutsu, but none of those are historically verifiable as existing prior to Takamatsu Takamatsu was the instructor of Hatsumi, the headmaster of the Bujinkan. Several of the arts are either forms of jujutsu or contain elements of jujutsu as part of the curriculum.
Within the Bujinkan, it's common for students to be taught what is essentially a blend of Hatsumi's interpretation of the various arts, under the name "Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu. In general, they are unarmed systems focused primarily on grappling, but they will often include some striking and sometimes even weapon use.
Older forms of jujutsu range from supplemental battlefield training for armored warriors to complete unarmed self-defense systems for civilians. These historical koryu arts are niche arts and relatively hard to find legitimate training in these days. Most jujutsu schools you can find today are modern "gendai" systems.
Not all of these systems still use the jujutsu name, but you can often find more similarities between a school which uses the jujutsu name and one that doesn't than you can between two schools which do use the name.
Bottom line, the labels in question are so broad that it's impossible to answer unless you narrow it down a bit. Tony Dismukes said:. Click to expand Thank you all for your answers. Poison darts, primitive explosives, being an undercover mole, hanging upside down for hours, throat slitting, etc are skills that very few are qualified to teach or others want to learn.
There is much more, as you touched upon, to being a ninja than fighting. Charbel Hanna said:. If you have anything in particular to say about the Bujinkan styles, I'm all ears. Joined Mar 20, Messages 3, Reaction score If you want the history of studying a "ninjutsu" art, then go for it. If you wanted an "updated" approach with ties to the old schools, then many people like Stephen K.
Hayes approach with To-Shin Do. Unlike a pure grappling form such as jujitsu that can easily incorrperate element of Japanese JJ and BJJ as well as Russian Sambo Ninjitsu, which as I'm sure you know was created for one purpose, to counter the Samurai's combat effectiveness, and because as I'm sure you also know in fuedal Japan weapons were illeagal for non-members of the Samurai class, so to counter this like many Japanese MA's, Ninjas used many concealed weapons and used stealth to stay out of harms way.
They also used "dishonnorable" tactic like asssination. So because ninjitsu was such a specialized art, It is safe to assume today with the consantly evolving MA world the average Ninjitsu Dojo will be more traditonal Of course there are exceptions to this as with all MA's but it is a semi-safe assumption. And as far as them being "similar" aren't all MA "similar"? I mean they many element that are similar but no more than say, Mantis Kunfu and Tai-Chi.
I'm done ps. I know there is no "ultimate" grappling tecnique. Last edited: Aug 10, Sobukwe-Biko , Aug 10, Aegis , Aug 10, Well we could Banter back and fourth for days, so good debate, I wish we could have it in person mainly because you and I are probably misundersatding eachother I know you are mis-interpreting what I'm saying, but like i said good debate.
I don't think I'm misinterpreting. Let me summarise what I feel you are saying: Jujutsu and ninjutsu are essentially different arts at the core level That ninjutsu is somehow more traditional than jujutsu despite both arts coming from the same era with jujutsu possibly being older and more filled with tradition That jujutsu focuses on groundwork techniques and ninjutsu uses standup That ninjutsu used tactics which are no longer viable and this somehow leaves a hole in their training Am I right and have I missed anything?
I tried to address all of these points in my previous post. Thanks for reading. Alright, so you aren't like most people who think ninjutsu is about assassination. Ninjutsu is specialized in that it is a combat art and designed for self-defense and real fighting. It could be more traditional but it really depends on the teacher and the jujutsu. The assassination thing is over done, it was only done if absolutely necessary. Ninjutsu does not have a lot of killing in it.
You can kill with it but the point isn't to kill. The point is to defend yourself. If you need to kill to do it, then that is what needs to be done.
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